Jungle Timer Curse Voice – No bots please!

Just a week ago Riot came up with an interesting statement about Curse Voice:

1. Automated timers: while our design team is still exploring whether we’d want to add any kind of built-in timers to League of Legends, we agree with many of you that having it accessible only through a third-party app is a clear competitive advantage between those who download it and those who do not, and isn’t acceptable.

2. Automated voice calls: We have no problem with players hopping on Curse Voice (or any other voice chat client) to coordinate with their friends in-game, but when the application begins directly connecting you with dozens of other people in unfiltered (and untrackable) voice chats, it can make for a huge negative player experience in a space where we can’t help.

Overall they say that Curse Voice is currently not allowed to use because of mainly these two features. When they delete them or even edit it’s totally fine. But due to these features are kind of the most important stuff of this piece of software I think Curse will not change them. But as Riot Sargonas said they don’t have problems with third party software in general.

Why waiting so long Riot…

The strange thing is that there has to be a tool (in that case Curse Voice) that grows bigger and bigger and Riot is waiting to simply tell it’s forbidden as its state is now. I really can understand Curse is really pissed now. Creating such a great software just because they didn’t know it’s not allowed. The problem is all about the communication channel.

I contacted Riot support several times and never got clear statements what is allowed and what is not. Especially asked for Curse Voice status and I got this answer that we can’t tell about third party software. Well in my mind that’s no good behaviour. Not for players and especially not for developers persperctive.

For the players it might be uninteresting if a tool is not allowed. Riot just don’t care about those – I call it soft tools. I must admit I never heard about any real case where someone was actually banned for using a automatic Jungle Timer. The only thing I heard about was a temporary blocked account.


My minds

Let’s assume I have someone else  playing against me and who is cheating. Just imagine a game where skill does not mean anything because of additional software. Riot really has to get control over the different software out there and tell the players which tools are on their ban list. It would be awesome if someone could create a petition or something like that so that Riot see the players really need this approved piece of information.

To Curse Voice

Firstly Curse Voice is great software. Right now they have a jungle timer that is very well integrated in  the game. LJTD might now be less used. But I don’t think so. Curse Voice is fully integrated and I know many guys that don’t want tools to be integrated into LoL directly and loosing their independant status. LJTD is completely portable, too. Something that Curse Voice can’t say about themselfes.

In-game voice is a great feature. But as Riot says the advantage you get is way too high at this moment. The decision to forbid this software is the right decision.

The second argument that the timers are like bots is something different. Curse Voice has automatic timers that start when a camp is cleared. Compared to LJTD where you have to start the timers on your own Curse Voice has a huge advantage. To say that’s bad user experience for players with e.g. LJTD is correct. That’s nothing to just say about this timer. In general every timer should be forbidden where you don’t have to start cleared camps on your own. Ban all these bots!


So …

@curse: Try to implement Curse Voice more the way Riot want.

@Riot: Be more transparent to support players and developers.

TL;DR: Curse Voice got banned a week ago; Software gives too much advantages and behaves like a bot; Curse has to update their software; IMHO Riot’s ban is coherent; LJTD doing nothing forbidden (download here); Riot currently banning many additional software (link)

Reasons for the long Downtime

Hey what’s up with all of you guys =). Firstly really big sorry for the long time that has passed till the site is now back online. There are several reasons for that.

As you might have noticed we had some trouble with LJTD.net round about 2 months and it’s still going on. Sure that was not intended or supposed to happen. I will tell you the whole story now in all details.

TL;DR: LJTD.net is replaced by LJTD.eu, Hardware behind LJTD.net destroyed


What happened to LJTD.net?

So more than 2 months ago suddenly the server gone down. We already had a week downtime already in the history, so I wasn’t really shocked and believing that the hoster is going to manage it again and changing the hardware which was needed to be replaced in a very short time.

But after some weeks they said they were not able to do this (or what I think they didn’t want to invest that money…). I was really angry this time as you can imagine. So I was looking for an alternative and found it. But there was another problem that lead to another delay…

Who was actually hosting LJTD.net?

It is a good friend of mine who had a server and free capacity and mainly someone who was able to set up the server really quickly at the start of this project (about 3 years ago). So I decided to order him as my hardware specialist. But a huge problem was that requests to him were replied with a big delay. So after LJTD.net crashed all the needed information came up weeks later…

Why LJTD.eu now instead?

That friend told me his new server will be available at begin of this month. But as you can imagine nothing happened these days. So I took matter into one’s own hand and ordered the new LJTD.eu domain to give you access to the page as fast as possible.

What has changed now?

So basically nothing changed for you. For myself I now have full access to the server and the rights of the domain. My friend will also give me the rights for LJTD.net in some days so I will create a redirect to the new page. This will not any longer direct into an empty page 😀

By the way now I have more costs (about 200€/year), it would really help to get more donations now. I’m working full time beside the project and still invest the rest of my time for this project. Please give something back if you can. Thanks.


Thanks for any donation =)

Any donation will go completely into the project costs

What did I learn from that and tips for yourself!

If you can host your page on your own. Be independant from others is always an advantage and an aim.

So yeah what else to say. Have fun with the new site. Hopefully the performance does not drop. In exchange for the downtime I will setup a TeamSpeak server which you can use in the future. But yeah let’s first begin to deliver the tool, I will give an update when it’s ready for you guys. Edit: TeamSpeak server will additional increase cost per month by 50 Euro, so to realize that we need more donations. Sorry but I can’t take these high costs alone.

Thank you again for all your support and on-going feedback during the page was down. Hopefully everyone now knows the new adresse. Invite your friends and be an awesome Jungler or at least … Ready to Jungle! Cheers my friends. =)